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Apr 8, 2009, 4:41:43 PM
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hey, thanks for all the help everyone!!! this is a continuation of the thing started here
I think I've decided on this one, so I tightened up the sketch and added some other wings to it, just ignore the circles, they're there purely as guidelines...

so I want to know, is it still working with the added wings? should I change the added wings? or am I an idiot for choosing this one?
your opinions are greatly appreciated!!

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*Orangeyyy Jan 20, 2010  Student Traditional Artist
i think this looks awesome and would make a good design.

-BUT-

i reackon you should have chosen either 1 or 3, you will have a lot more freedom to add things and blend colors in whereas although this looks really cool, you cant go much further with it, adding even more wings or wind swirls or leaves/clouds is probably the best you can do and you cant go far with colors either, you would need to choose "birdy" colors, like blues or something unless you want to go rainbow power and totally ruin it.

personally, i think you should go with no.3, with the foxes and stuff, you could easily turn it into a predator and prey type thing and incorporate little creatures (rats maybe?) running away, you could put flames into it aswell and as for the colors you could put warm browns and flamey colors and greys and surround it by blackness.
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~tigerlilyv Apr 9, 2009   General Artist
:D WONDERFUL idea!!! Very Echer-ish ^__^

-TL
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:iconvalentinecrow:
I think its an amazing design, I'm rather picky about designs but damn I love this. If I could, I'd embroider the first ring of it on something, just to have it, because something about its entwining birds and shapes is just so....ooo shiney!
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:iconedbreadkid:
oops, you chose 4. i like it because it looks simple but intricate at the same time. i also like the alternative position for the wing, but maybe it would look good either way. i'm a sucker for loads of details, but it looks like you don't want it to be too detailed? the more to see, the more fun it is, i think.
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~Trast Apr 8, 2009  Student General Artist
I do like the curves, I think you've reached the right amount of wings, the curves of the wings are so pleasing to the eye and lead it around the page. :)
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:iconsquigglefish:
What happens if you give more of a curve to the head? It might give the birds a bit more structure to compensate for the extra detail as you approach the edges. On the flipside, I'm not sure if the wings make sense. They do add a very developed nature to the design ( versus the classic design of the previous one, as the others worded well ), but I can't visually connect them to the birds...so they're just odd. If you could get the spectator to infer the presence of a second circle of birds, it might make sense but it might also get too complicated.
In the end, I guess I would recommend the first design with the extra wings from this piece replacing the wings in the first because it would add the circular motion that you achieved here by adding the extra wings. So going to the first design and folding the wings.
I'm not sure if that gives you any ideas, but I'm really loving it so far. It would be a great tattoo. :)
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~genkaku-kun Apr 8, 2009  Student Traditional Artist
Mmm, I liked the last one better. It was classier, it felt more reserved (in a good way).
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~Gottschalk Apr 8, 2009  Professional
looks lovely, but the extra wings causes the birds to get lost a little--im not sure how important that is here (a mandala is like a puzzle aye? so maybe you should try to work on the birds/actual figures instead of adding surplus stuff- would look pretty, but out of context. and you can still make it nice while focu'sin on the actual birds aye : )
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~theumbrella Apr 8, 2009  Student General Artist
mmm very true, it's an issue i've been battling over...since it is a colour assignment, i could always manipulate the colours to pull the focal birds into attention, but at the same time it still might be over detailed and busy...but I don't want it to have elements that are too simple or it might not be as effective that way either...
i just want to work out most of the problems at this thumbnail stage, so when i'm ready to do the final pencils i'll be certain of what i'm doing...maybe i'll fool around and do just one bird all finalized...we'll see...
but thanks so much for the comment, it's more helpful than you could know!
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~Gottschalk Apr 8, 2009  Professional
my pleasure. it is lookin great- but i really think you can manage to redesign the main bird piece in order to max yer desired complexdesign level (you mentioned it should be mid- neither too fussy nor simplistic, but we can always work wonders on feathers! ; ) bird O';paradise
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